Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Varsity English Discusses Morality

I would say that our discussion in class today was one of the best ones we’ve had all year: it was heated and passionate and contained many a reference to literature and historical events. Mr. Martin would be proud. At the same time, however, it was a bit disturbing. It seemed as though everyone was advocating a somewhat similar point, and yet we were still unable to reach a consensus. Did our failure to agree stem from a flaw in our arguments? I would say not. The problem is that there really is no answer to the question of whether it is okay to disobey laws that are morally wrong. First of all, morality is subjective. As we are learning in Psychology, morals vary from culture to culture, making the moral compass of, for example, a Muslim extremist, very different from that of an American teenager living in Arizona. If this is true, on what should be base morality?

Like Varsity English, Sophocles too explored the differing systems upon which to base one’s decisions. In Antigone, we see the conflicting perspectives of Creon and Antigone. Creon’s values are based on obedience to authority and loyalty to one’s country. He advocates strongly against anarchy, saying “Anarchy, anarchy! Show me a greater evil! / This is why cities tumble and the great houses rain down, / This is what scatters armies!” (42). He speaks of the importance of having a strong central government and asserts that obedience (even blind obedience) is the most necessary of attributes. Creon’s values do not allow room for sympathy towards Polyneices’s soul as Polyneices was disloyal to Thebes. He seems to be making an example out of Polyneices, using his culturally harsh treatment of the corpse as a deterrent for other potential dissenters.

Antigone, the protagonist of the story, lives her life according to different principles. She is loyal to her family, performing the funeral rites necessary to put her brother’s soul to rest, even at great personal risk. She is also loyal to the gods, claiming obedience to a higher power than the king. She says, “You will remember / What things I suffer, and at what men’s hands, / Because I would not transgress the laws of heaven” (78). Antigone is so strong in her convictions that she is willing, even eager, to die for her cause. She represents the Ghandi, the Thoreau, or the Martin Luther King Jr. of Ancient Greek Tragedy, peacefully disobeying a law she sees as immoral and accepting the consequences.

Both Creon and Antigone are unwavering in very their different sets of beliefs. Similarly, both Martin Luther King Jr. and the white supremacists of the 1960s believed they were correct in their morals. For us, there is an obvious right and wrong option when dealing with civil rights; however, in the case of Antigone, there is no clear answer. Both sets of values work in differing circumstances and both can seem reasonable. So the question is, which system does Sophocles advocate? Surely not that of Creon: even the Chorus speaks out against his stubbornness. However, Antigone dies at the end of the play, so her way cannot be the correct one either. Perhaps, like us, Sophocles too struggled with the idea of a universal moral compass. Perhaps the only true way to determine what is moral is on a situational or personal basis: as Ernest Hemingway said, “I know only that what is moral is what you feel good after and what is immoral is what you feel bad after.” (539)

6 comments:

Danni said...

Lauren
I too found it both frustrating and rewarding that our class could not reach a consensus on who was more right. It is indeed very true when you say "Both sets of values work in differing circumstances and both can seem reasonable." As a reader, our only flaw is expecting a universal moral compass to apply to this play. We can only be satisfied with the conflict if we come to terms that there can be two equally right arguments.
You made me think hard.
Danni

Gary Gold said...

Lauren,

The great philosopher, philanthropist, expeditionist Gary Gold once said, "Nice blog, Lauren." It was extremely interesting. I enjoyed your discussion about what Sophocles was advocating. Was he in favor of state laws or personal morals? Although the reader may not be able to figure it out, you attacked this question like a storm of infrantry in the Revolutionary War with cannons and horses and muskets. Nicely done my friend.

Ravenclaw

Ivy said...

Part of the problem with reaching a consensus in our class was that in trying to find a general rule for what was morally correct, people started throwing out statements that included all manner of sins. "Well, it's okay if you're not acting solely in your own self-interest!" So that makes, what, violent terrorism and child abuse acceptable? Really I think it's best just to do what you said--admit it's all subjective, and leave it at that. And then quote Hemingway 'cause he was always right.

LCC said...

I still think it's possible in specific arguments to find sound moral justification for one side over the other. In the civil rights debate, for example, King and his supporters had the US Constitution and the Judeo-Christian tradition on their side, while their opponents had only a belief that whites were inherently superior to blacks and that racism was therefore the natural order of things. The fact that the supremacists believed their arguments so strongly doesn't make them any more valid. So I tend to reject the idea that all morality is somehow completely subjective, with no set of beliefs preferable to any others. To me, that's just flawed reasoning.

Emily Gogolak said...

Lauren,

Like you, I believe that every situation in which one removed must make a moral judgement demands a sense of relativity. I found your assertion that Creon and Antigone are both correct (based on their personal moral compasses) thought-provoking. Individuals have different moral paths: in the case of Creon and Antigone, their moral mosaics were not only different, but also terribly conflicting... brining a chain reaction of death and despair to everyone around them.

Great blog, Lauren. Very insightful. And a wonderful finishing touch with the Hemingway quote!

-Emily

Ally Resnik said...

Lauren--
I thought that this blog entry was very well-written. I agree that Sophocles does not push for one definite moral standard in this play. His writing must have stirred up controversy among his contemporaries as well because loyalty to the gods and to the state were theoretically the same, and the notion that they might sometimes clash must have been alarming and perplexing. Good blog!
-Ally